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'Muslims can never forgive Kalyan over Babri issue'

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Posted: Feb 05, 2009 at 1542 hrs IST
How can Mulayam, who claims to be secular, join hands with Kalyan, asks rebel SP MP Shafiq-ur-Rehman Barq.

Lucknow Coming down heavily on Samajwadi Party supremo Mulayam Singh Yadav for joining hands with Kalyan Singh, rebel SP MP Shafiq-ur-Rehman Barq on Thursday said Muslims could never forgive the former BJP leader for his role in the Babri mosque demolition.

"We can never forgive Kalyan for the Babri mosque demolition. How can Mulayam Singh, who claims himself to be secular join hands with Kalyan," Barq told reporters Lucknow.

Alleging that Yadav was befooling Muslims, the three times MP from Moradabad said "that he (Mulayam) failed to provide proper representation to the community in his regime".

Asked whether he can forgive Kalyan, Barq said "he could never do so and advised Mulayam to ask Kalyan to apologise to the Muslim community in Parliament".

"He (Kalyan) always said that he was proud of the demolition of Babri mosque in Ayodhya and joining hands with him is not tolerable to him and also other Muslim leaders", Barq said.

Asked whether he was in touch with BSP for securing a ticket from Moradabad, Barq said that he was in touch with all the parties including Congress and BSP.

"I have decided to contest the coming Lok Sabha polls as an independent candidate. I will consider offers from other parties when they come", he said.

About SP's founder member Mohammad Azam Khan's annoyance with SP and reports of his joining BSP, Barq said he was in touch with all Muslims leaders of SP.

Claiming that Mulayam's love for Muslims is a farce, the rebel MP said "he (Mulayam) should ensure that name of the party, its MLAs and MPs should be written in Urdu also, if he really has some respect for the community".

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Kalyan singh Babri masjid by Bharat on 06 Feb 2009

Then by the same token Hindus should never forgive Muslims for Somnath.

Vote Bank Politics by Mad Mhmd Mia on 06 Feb 2009

Mulayam should ask Kalyan to do "murgha" in paliament before giving his party ticket!

The Facts by Anil Kumar on 06 Feb 2009

Muslims are no body to forgive. The attrocities Muslims leashed on the people of India is a known historical fact. People should understand the thinking of Founder of Islam. They wanted to CONVERT by FORCE. They demolished the Temles at important places and constructed Mosques at so many places. North India where their main representation was, they demolished the Temples at AYYODHYA, KASHI

'Muslims can never forgive Kalyan over Babri issue' by Suresh Rao on 05 Feb 2009

Do not forgive Kalyan Singh over the Babri issue. We Hindus also cannot forgive Kalyan Singh over the partial demolitionof the Babri Structure.Nowhere else in the world do 82 % of the population be so beholden to a 15 % minority That is why we are in such deep shit.Now doyou know why Shri Ram Sene and Shrimati Sita Sene keep springing up every now and then. Slowly but surely the Hindu is becoming a fanatic just like the Muslim.Muslims and Secukarists mustnowponder deeply and introspect as tohow to deal with this situation. Punishing and suppressing theSene will only makeit grow stronger and larger.

POLITICIANS ARE CHEAP , UNPRINCIPLED AND UNTRUSTWORTHY by M.M.NAAZIM on 05 Feb 2009

IF MULAYAM HAS NOW EMBRACED KALYAN AS HIS NEW FRIEND , WHEN WERE THEY ENEMIES BEFORE ??? IT'S ONLY THE MUSLIMS IN U.P COULD NOT UNDERSTAND MULAYAM GAME PROPERLY . EVERY SO CALLED REGIONAL SECULAR PARTIES HAVE TRIED TO USE MUSLIMS FOR VOTES , BUT ONCE IN POWER MUSLIMS ARE A FORGOTTEN LOT WHAT HAVE THESE POLITICIANS -- MULAYAM , MAYAVATI , LALUPRASAD , NITESH , PASWAN ETC -- HAVE DONE FOR MUSLIMS UPLIFTMENT . NET RESULT OF THE GRAND PROMISES THEY MAKE IS BIG ZERO . WHAT HAVE THE MUSLIM M.P's AND M.L.A's AFFILIATED TO THESE REGIONAL PARTIES DONE FOR THEIR COMMUNITY , THEY ARE LIP SYMPATHIZERS

Politicians are Cheap by Mhmd Mia on 06 Feb 2009

Why do muslims always ask for special treatment?

Babri and muslims by Subbu on 05 Feb 2009

Mr. Kalyan Singh says " Muslims are not against me, but against BJP". Is the statement not a joke? If he thinks demolition was wrong, then why did he lead the kar sevaks at that time and followed the BJP's orders? These people know that Muslims can easily be cheated as they have no brain, but once muslims start thinking really, then Kalyan, Mulayam and Amar and Akhilesh will have to run even without Langotti. Beware.

WHAT ABT TEMPLES DEMOLISHED by TRUE TO INDIA on 05 Feb 2009

WHAT ABT MUS DESTROYING 1000'S OF HINDU TEMPLES AND LOOTING AND KILLING OUR PEOPLE ,,WHY SHOULD HINDU'S FORGIVE THAT,,,1 BABRI VS 1000'S AND 1000'S OF TEMPLES,,HOWS THAT FOR A COMPARISION,,WHERE IS NDTV WHY NOT BARKING NOW,,WHERE R OUR MOST OPPURTUNISTIC MINORITY APPEASING GOOD FOR NOTHING POLITICOS

how is babri important for muslims by gurucharan on 05 Feb 2009

i wonder why muslims should ever take offence for babri demolition or for the matter of fact- forgive anyone for it!! there is basic difference between hindus and muslims regarding the way they worship. hindus worship idol which they regard as the reprasentative of the universal consciousness and so build 'temple'-the place of god or'devalayam'. whereas muslims believe in formless almighty, so build 'masjid'-the place of worship, which can be anywhere without giving any importance to the place, that which located at any suitable location for that community. this is in sharp contrast to the sentiments of hindus about the importance of birthplace of lord Ram, as proved by Arheological society of india. if in last year about 400 masjids were distroyed in pakistan for road widening, why dont muslim brotherhood extend their goodwill gestures to hindus in dis-claiming babri, in which they never did their prayersand in which 'ram lalla' was already residing!stop politics around it for india.

Facts on ASI by Hari on 06 Feb 2009

'birthplace of lord Ram, as proved by Arheological society of india' from where have you got this information? Or you have forgotten the affidavit ASI gave to Supreme court on Adam's bridge. Please get your facts corrected from ASI and not make assumptions based on what you have heard from BJP.

What a pity Hindus are deluded by media and politics by Bhakta on 19 Nov 2009

i think you are a big fool covering the facts given in the history look for this in wikepedia archaeologists have found that, prior to 1528, a temple stood at this site and that in 1528 the temple was demolished on the orders of Mughal invader Babur and a mosque was built on its ruins. "This mosque came to be known as the Babri Mosque." You can refer many other authentic books of course. Whether the Ram Existed or not is a matter of faith but surely there was a Hindu temple before Ram Temple. Look at what has happened in Bangladesh for Hindu Minorities. You people dont have reading habits. Grabing informations here and there you think that you are well read. When the danger visits your own house then only you will weep. Who will weep for Mother Bharat?

ASI proof by gurucharan on 06 Feb 2009

you are mixing ram janma bhoomi issue and ramsethu issue!? why dont you see NASA report regarding ram sethu's origin!it doesnt mean that x-rays are'nt there until the time they are prooved!! the limitation of any scientific endeavor depends on the limitations of its instrument, and so the 'facts' of scientific evidence are infact relative truths which changes with technological improvements. you cannot prove that it is not the birthplace of lord Ram, why then to question the believes of millions??

Hidus were and are the most secular persons by gary on 05 Feb 2009

There were no muslims in India and mainly the muslims in india are converts who converted under threat or due to benefits. Hindus are and were always tolerant and that is why they can still go and prey at mosques but have you ever seen any muslim praying inside a temple. so who is secular ?

Secular Proof by David on 06 Feb 2009

How many mosques have you visited? Why are you trying to prove your secularism?

POLITICAL APOLOGY AND POLITICAL DEMAND by ANIYAN on 05 Feb 2009

SHAFIQ UR-REHMAN ALSO PLAYING HIS OWN POLITICAL CARD, SIMPLY BECAUSE HE IS NOT WITH MULAYAM NOW. THERE ARE THOUSAND OTHERS WITH MULAYAM, INCLUDING THE MUMBAI GOONDA AZMI. WHY DONT THEY OPEN THEIR MOUTH. THEY CANNOT, BECAUSE THEY WILL BE OUT FROM SP. PERSON LIKE AZMI IS WAITING FOR THE SEAT. SO, THIS ARE ALL POLITICAL DRAMAS. YOU, ME, OTHERS, MAKE SURE, DO NOT DIE IN THE NAME OF RELIGION. RELIGION IS HERE TO STAY; NO ONE CAN FINISH IT OFF. AS FOR BABRI MASJID, THE METHOD WAS NOT CORRECT BUT THE INTENTION WAS GOOD. BABAR CONSTRUCTED IT DEMOLISHING THE TEMPLE, WHICH WAS REVERSED IN 1992, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, IN A VIOLENT WAY. IT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE WITH CONSENSUS. LET THERE BE A CONSENSUS NOW TO CONSTRUCT A MASJID AND THE RAM TEMPLE.

Hindus also will never forgive muslims by bhimsen on 05 Feb 2009

For looting, plundering, killing, destroying, raping our civilization. And worst of all not only partitioning India but also siding with the enemies of the India.

Get United by Abdul on 05 Feb 2009

Slowley but steadly hindus are opening their eyes.Only thing need to be done is to get them united by fogetting this Cast system.

Re: by Indian on 05 Feb 2009

I think you are a fool and an idiot.This is a virtual community read by less than fraction of one percentage of Hindus.Rest are in ignorance and don't have any clue.You go and awake them first.

DHOBI KA KUTA NA GHARKA NA GHAATKA by romesh.sharma on 05 Feb 2009

Kalyan Singh had made himself a an idiotic joker among all political parties.They,SP and co,promised him to give better chances which intrigue only against BJP.They wanted to weaken BJP because they have realized its gaining ground to win the coming elections.They will leave him hanging outside doors and that is what a traitors deserves.He he can cheat BJP he can do with any other Party.Most untrustworthy and worthless person.For him it would be better to resign and renounce politics and ofcourse never show his face in media.Now that KalyanSingh has taken moral reposibility of Babri demolition where are those psedo-secular and muslims who had been shouting slogans against Advani,Vajpayee,Modi and BJP being Party of Hindu radicals.Mulayam too is a cheat but muslims want to introduce Urdu equal to Hindi stinks.Those who wish Urdu to be introduced should get out of India and if Mulayam ever comes to this idea be hanged publically.For unity muslims must respect Nation's interests first

Urdu has already replaced Hindi by Surekha on 05 Feb 2009

If you watch well around yourself all is Urdu now. Gone is that Hindi which we learnt in our schools about 20-30 years ago. Even the cartoons that our children so keenly watch are in Urdu ! Hindi movies are no more Hindi but absolutely Urdu. This an observation of a Pakistani colleague of my husband when he worked in Saudi Arabia 12 years ago. All as per orers from Karachi, I trust.

Its not Urdu by romesh.sharma on 05 Feb 2009

Surekhaji the common spoken language in media,flick world and part of north-west of our coutry is not Urdu but so to say Hindistani.A mixture of Hindi,Urdu,Persian,Turkishand very little Arabic.This is Hindi blended with other languages.This all was before Pakistan's creation.Islamic invaders had ruled long enough our country and this mix was unavoidable.The colleague of your Hubby claims this to be urdu is mere uppish to show Pakistani dominance on our culture and language.Why not he can but its their official language and will never be recognized in India officially.Its Hindi that has adopted some words like English does too.

But, was it a Mosque? by Bindoolal Bholelal Arya on 05 Feb 2009

i am very clear that destroying any structure unauthorisedly is wrong. But Shafiq-ur-Rahman sahib, was the Babri structure a mosque at all? Was anybody praying there?

Moaque by Rajeev on 05 Feb 2009

Here as some more facts1. since it was used for worship of Lord Ram since more then 50 years it was no longer mosque as per Muslim Religion.2. Doors for structure were opened by Rajeev Gandhi.3. It was suggested/proposed beofore demolition of structure to move it to some other location, which was refused by muslim leaders to show that they are hard on it.

Religion by Enlightened on 05 Feb 2009

If no one lives in your house, does it authorize anyone to break it down? Any ways God has stopped living in places of worship, how can he live, when people uses his name to destroy mankind.

So much for enlightenment! by Ashwin on 05 Feb 2009

Do u realize that the so called "house" was first built by forcibly destroying a pre-existing house? So much for enlightenment!

Faith by Still Enlighted on 06 Feb 2009

Your worried about he house and I'm interested in GOD that's the difference. What good is a house to you if you have to live alone, for me a place of worship is no good if GOD doesn't dwell in it.

Reply to enlightened by Re:Religion on 05 Feb 2009

Your point is valid if the house belonged to you not when the house was occupied with coercion.

NEXT by Indian on 05 Feb 2009

I Mulayam Singh yadav have changed my name to MOULANA SABIR YAHYA to uphold the secular values of my country!.

Next by Babu on 05 Feb 2009

Mulayam Singh was Moulana Singh before. Is he going to be Purohith Singh now. Clever politician.

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